The Most Noxious Point of the Windsor Report Becomes Reality

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Marc: thanks for this spirit-filled and Christ-centered reminder about the dangers of exclusion and our call to solidarity. peace, Ethan
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Thank you so much, Bp. Marc, for your response to the Archbishop's isolation of Gene Robinson. When I read Williams' statement my immediate reaction was rage, grief, and hurt questions (e.g., "Where has Christ's call for justice gone? Why is the leader of the Communion not leading us prophetically? He seems to be putting survival of an institution ahead of justice").
While I agree that this is a dangerous road to take - disinviting a duly consecrated diocesan bishop - the same warnings you cite could have and should have applied to us (TEC) when Gene was first elected. As you say: 'If you touch one bishop of the Anglican Communion, you touch them all' - so for those provinces (in the majority it appears) who are not convinced of the moral neutrality of homosexuality, we've essentially given them no choice. If we are created to be in communion, why did we so hastily discard communion with our Anglican brothers and sisters by insisting on consecrating Gene without Communion consensus in the first place? It wasn't like we weren't warned well in advance, pleaded with to wait, and given opportunities to build a consensus of new understanding with regards to human sexuality. I think you fail to appreciate or acknowledge their position.

Bishop Marc:

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I am so drawn to your characterization of isolation and exile as a "mechanism of the diabolic, the shattering of communion and integrity." Your honesty, insight and leadership give me hope for a blattered and bleeding church, for battered and bleeding people, and I pray that you will continue to be a voice of the Light.

Blessings and peace to you from Alabama,

Jan Neal

Hello +Marc -

Like you I recently joined the Episcopal Church of California.
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As a priest and long-time-licensed practitioner of individual psychoanalytic psychotherapy and structural and strategic family therapy, I am so very, very tired of reading pseudo-theological psychobabble. The pecking order becomes slightly reversed, and the pity pots get hauled out.
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Thank you, Bishop.
As a priest and long-time practitioner of individual psychoanalytic psychotherapy and structural and strategic family therapy, I am very, very tired of all of the "pity-pottish" pseudo-theological psychobabble that is pandered when the ordinary pecking order of the progressives-sticking-it-to-the-orthodox (or whatever is the current jargon) gets reversed. I have decided to no longer participate in such nonsense, so continue to feel sorry for yourselves, and blame the Africans for your misery.
Marcus raises a good question that will go irnored by us Americans.
From one of your own in Oregon....just a simple THANK YOU for saying what needed to be said in a timely and effective way.

" A former Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie, once said that if you touch one bishop of the Anglican Communion, you touch them all."

"A former Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie, once said that if you touch one bishop of the Anglican Communion, you touch them all."

Precisely, which is why Robinson should never have been consecrated over the objections of a number of Anglican bishops and primates.

Quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus.

I don't believe that Runcie meant that all bishops everywhere get to decide who can be "in the club," or that there might be duly elected bishops who were "untouchable."

Where did Bishop Andrus get

The intrustion into foreign juristictions (and polity)

Where did Bishop Andrus get a theological education that leads him to believe that “we have already been delivered by Christ and the Prophets.” If the Prophets could deliver us, then Christ has died in vain.

And, exactly which Prophet(s) does Bishop Andrus have in mind?

I sincerely hope that he does not believe that there are Prophets who could deliver, for this goes against everything the Church and the New Testament teach.